Episode 2
Find Someone Else to Hunch!
Chosen Kin is back with Love Island, Summer House, all the Real Housewives of Atlanta drama, and a serious case for keeping your hands off your friend's situationship. Bia and Harry dive into dating, the job market, and the one rule too many queer folks ignore: stop dating inside your own friend group. It's reality TV recaps colliding with real talk about why your platonic relationships deserve more protection than any summer fling. The conversation builds to one blunt, funny, surprisingly wise lesson about love and friendship, and how to actually show up for community.
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Transcript
Hey.
Speaker B:Hey, y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:I'm bia.
Speaker B:I am harry.
Speaker B:And we're chosen kin.
Speaker A:We're back.
Speaker A:We're back.
Speaker A:We're back.
Speaker B:Yes, we are back.
Speaker A:Yes, we are.
Speaker A:How are you, Harry?
Speaker A:How is life?
Speaker A:How are things?
Speaker A:What's tea?
Speaker B:Life is life.
Speaker B:You know, to be honest, I am a little stressed with all the things that I have got going on, all things that I'm doing.
Speaker B:But I'm here, I'm queer, I'm happy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm just chilling for the most part.
Speaker B:I am realizing the.
Speaker B:The single epidemic is affecting me really deeply.
Speaker B:And so I am, you know, been reflecting on that.
Speaker B:You know, how I need to shift and change things.
Speaker B:I feel like that's a little bit of.
Speaker A:Say more.
Speaker B:No, I just feel like.
Speaker A:Say more.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Single epidemic.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I feel like, okay, maybe not a single epidemic, but I feel like I really need to take my dating more seriously as I, you know, I think we talk about this all the time, but now I'm.
Speaker B:I'm being very serious about that, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But that's it for the most part.
Speaker B:How are you?
Speaker B:You look really good.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:You really.
Speaker B:You look really good today.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker A:You know our skincare popping.
Speaker A:I have my ring light today, so, you know, things.
Speaker A:Things are looking up.
Speaker A:Harry, you're funny.
Speaker A:Talking about my love life.
Speaker A:We should do a.
Speaker A:A.
Speaker A:A love show.
Speaker A:Like a reality show.
Speaker A:Like, for the Love of Harry.
Speaker A:That would be so cute.
Speaker B:Oh, for the Love of Harry.
Speaker B:I'm down for that.
Speaker B:I can.
Speaker B:I can't be down for that, actually.
Speaker A:But I also feel like those shows, like, historically never have winners.
Speaker A:Like, they don't actually stay together.
Speaker A:So it's like.
Speaker A:That feels like a curse in itself.
Speaker A:But we could try, you know, we can try.
Speaker B:I feel like this summer is coming and people like to be booed up in the winter.
Speaker B:That's people's thing.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:I'm in a space where I don't.
Speaker B:I just want to be put up all year round.
Speaker B:I want to have someone who I'm gonna enjoy the summer with.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I want to enjoy the summer with someone.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Never heard that before.
Speaker A:You've heard it here.
Speaker A:First Chosen Kin.
Speaker A:Harry wants to be booed up for the summer.
Speaker A:Cause, child, that's news to me.
Speaker A:Okay, well, I'm glad you're doing well.
Speaker A:I was saying I'm glad you're doing okay, but you kind of was like, eh, life is life in.
Speaker A:And it's been a week of a.
Speaker A:One of One week.
Speaker A:But I definitely feel that it's felt like a one on one week this week as well.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Truth is, I'm tired.
Speaker A:I'm tired.
Speaker A:The news is dragging me by my edges.
Speaker A:The economy is dragging me by my edges.
Speaker B:The economy.
Speaker A:The economy.
Speaker A:Honestly, I'm close to creating some weird side hustles.
Speaker A:I'm about to bake cookies.
Speaker A:I'm about to make, you know, them little spicy bowls that people make in their eco styler gel tubs.
Speaker A:Yeah, I might be able to make that.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I was on Twitter and I saw someone share a receipt from.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B: I think it was the early: Speaker B:Did you see it?
Speaker B:And they had like a long list of things that they bought.
Speaker B:Everything was like 110.
Speaker B:And I was like, what?
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker B:You would shop like that today.
Speaker B:It would be easily 500.
Speaker B:500 Easily.
Speaker B:And I was like, damn, damn.
Speaker A:1:10 Used to be my sweet spot at the most because I'm a single living person.
Speaker A:So it's like at the most 110.
Speaker A:It was like, ooh, child, groceries high this month.
Speaker A:That's what it used to be for me.
Speaker A:And now it's 110 for what?
Speaker A:A carton of strawberries, some frozen dumplings, and some oat milk and Yogurt.
Speaker A:Like, that's 110 right there.
Speaker A:And I'm sick.
Speaker A:I'm sick of it.
Speaker A:Gas is too high.
Speaker A:I remember my grandpa used to be complaining about 99 cents gas.
Speaker A:He used to be like, this gas is too fucking high, like all the time.
Speaker A:And I would be like, okay, it's too high now.
Speaker A:In Atlanta, you're lucky to get under like 350.
Speaker A:350 Is.
Speaker A:Is like a gold mine right now.
Speaker A:It's like nine something.
Speaker A:Nine nine, three.
Speaker A:Nine three nine something.
Speaker A:Most of the time it's four something is in the 420s.
Speaker A:But I heard that's cheap compared to all of my little homies in like.
Speaker B:Chicago and Virginia, California, like $7 over there or something.
Speaker A:What's the gas?
Speaker A:What's the gas where you're at?
Speaker B:You know, I don't drive.
Speaker B:I'm a.
Speaker B:You know, I'm a.
Speaker A:But you still got eyes, right?
Speaker B:I don't drive, so I wouldn't know.
Speaker B:So you don't look.
Speaker B:You be like, you know, I could Google.
Speaker B:I could Google what the prices are, you know, But I don't know.
Speaker A:Hoocha Lay.
Speaker A:I'm screaming.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker A:It is a time.
Speaker A:And speaking of the Economy, you know, it's summer.
Speaker A:It feel like summer.
Speaker A:It's getting hotter and hotter.
Speaker A:It was like a little cold freeze.
Speaker A:I feel, like, across the south for a little while.
Speaker A:And I don't know what it's like up there in Minneapolis.
Speaker A:Y' all have winter till June 1st.
Speaker A:I don't be knowing.
Speaker B:No, it got warm for a bit.
Speaker B:We were in shorts, you know, the girls were at the patios.
Speaker B:And then we had, like, a couple of days where it was chilly.
Speaker B:But now I think we're.
Speaker B:I think now we found a good rhythm for our weather, and so I think we're fine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That don't sound warm, but okay.
Speaker A:I hear you.
Speaker B:It does get warm.
Speaker B:Like, I would say Minneapolis, if you live in Minneapolis, you're going to go through all the seasons.
Speaker B:You're going to have winter, you're going to have summer, you're going to have fall, you're going to have spring, you're going to go through everything because, you know, we are a climate haven, you know, and so that's just who we are.
Speaker B:Don't slip on Minneapolis, people.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna sleep on Minneapolis.
Speaker A:I love the Midwest.
Speaker A:Specifically Detroit.
Speaker A:Shout out to Detroit.
Speaker A:I have not been to Minneapolis.
Speaker A:It's on the list.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:We gotta link up.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yes, it has to happen.
Speaker A:You always be in Atlanta, so I never have opportunity to go to.
Speaker B:I can't wait.
Speaker B:I can't wait to come to Atlanta.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I've only been.
Speaker A:How much you want a husband.
Speaker B:I've only been here once this year, and that is not normal for me.
Speaker B:Normally, I'm in Atlanta at least five times a year, or even six, literally.
Speaker B:But now I'm only there once.
Speaker B:One time.
Speaker B:Bia.
Speaker B:That is crazy.
Speaker B:That is crazy to me.
Speaker A:I think it's for your benefit.
Speaker A:You talking about how you want a husband, you want to be in a relationship.
Speaker A:I don't think you need to be in Atlanta in that case.
Speaker A:Did I tell y'?
Speaker A:All?
Speaker A:Cause, Harry, when you in Atlanta, I barely see you.
Speaker A:I have to catch you between your breakfast, lunch, and dinners.
Speaker A:Like, it's a lot.
Speaker B:But also, you remember I had an ex, I lived in Atlanta, remember?
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:I do remember.
Speaker A:But it's like at the same time, you be having your way down here.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:When it's.
Speaker A:When you're down here, I'm definitely cosplaying as Nigerian.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:I'll be at the Nigerian gay spots with you.
Speaker A:I remember I went to one party with you during Pride weekend when I took a sea of men.
Speaker A:I'm the only femme person.
Speaker A:So they may.
Speaker A:I'm like, they might have thought I was trans femme.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:But I see a man and they giving me.
Speaker A:They're me mugging me like, bitch, what you doing here?
Speaker A:I'm like, y' all got so many options.
Speaker A:I'm one of one.
Speaker A:Why you mad?
Speaker A:These my peoples like, girl, what?
Speaker A:Y' all real.
Speaker A:Y' all real mean.
Speaker A:It's either they're really mean or they're super hospitable to me.
Speaker A:They're like, what do you need, Queen?
Speaker A:What's going on?
Speaker A:You need a drink?
Speaker A:Oh, come on.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:You in the back of the line.
Speaker A:You hungry, Queen?
Speaker A:Get a plate.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Or they may mug me like, bitch, get out of here.
Speaker B:I think that's a CIS gay thing, you know, I feel like CIS gay men don't like.
Speaker B:CIS gay men do not like femmes in your spaces.
Speaker B:And we gotta change that.
Speaker B:I think that we have to intentionally be more inclusive in some of our spaces.
Speaker B:Now, I know there are times when you want, you know, people like specific spaces for specific things or specific energies.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But I think that in general, if it's just a party, like, we're just here to dance and drink and go home.
Speaker B:That's very true.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So I feel like CIS gays are very, very protective of their spaces.
Speaker B:I think I would say the same thing also with, like, CIS gay, you know, women, for example, you know, who, you know, if I show up at the lesbian bar, it's like, you know, but, yeah, we're all gay, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker A:I promise, we're all gay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that'd be the thing.
Speaker A:I'd be like, you don't see me.
Speaker A:I'm Ken.
Speaker A:I'm your kin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I feel like even, like, we culture of color.
Speaker B:I'm trying to, like, do events here in the Twin Cities.
Speaker B:I think that my goal that I try, for the most part, is so that I am trying really hard to make it inclusive.
Speaker B:Trying really hard that, okay, everybody can show up to these parties or to these gatherings, that you don't have to be a CIS gay man.
Speaker B:Everybody in the LGBT umbrella, you know, can come and thrive and have a good time.
Speaker B:And so I think that we need more spaces like that, for sure.
Speaker B:Kind of like what Alt ATL is, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Shout out to Alt atl.
Speaker A:Shout out to friendzone.
Speaker A:Shout out to.
Speaker A:Who else?
Speaker A:Who else?
Speaker A:Who else?
Speaker A:Blame it on my head.
Speaker A:Not my heart homies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The lesbians at party.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But like I said, the reason why, the only reason why, like, when I'm in Atlanta that you might come across like, I am not, you know, present or I'm like, away is because of, like, to be honest, like, in Atlanta, I'm experiencing something that I never really experienced.
Speaker B:Quite often when I am in Minneapolis.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:There's a lot of black queer folks that I'm in enjoying and having a great time with and I'm partying with.
Speaker B:I'm just like, you know, I want to be in the spaces, I want to be at the spots, I want to meet the people.
Speaker B:And so it's like I'm.
Speaker B:I'm doing that.
Speaker B:I feel like if I'm.
Speaker B: ime, like when I was there in: Speaker B:Now I always have, like, small windows, you know, unless I move to Atlanta.
Speaker B:I'll bet you, though, I think that.
Speaker A:I don't know why you got small windows, Harry.
Speaker A:Because you got appointments.
Speaker B:Because I got, I got, I got.
Speaker B:Now I have like a different.
Speaker B:I have a different job.
Speaker B:I gotta come in like on Friday, I live on Sunday.
Speaker B:I'll leave on Monday morning.
Speaker B:So the dynamics are just very different now.
Speaker A:I think that's the thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:You sounded like Ariel a little earlier.
Speaker A:You're like, I want to be where the people are.
Speaker B:I want to be.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:I want to be.
Speaker A:Where the niggas at.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker B:The African auntie.
Speaker A:I honestly.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I personally, you know, I'm trying to be kind of kept a little bit.
Speaker A:I like it where I'm at, so I'm not mad.
Speaker A:I don't need to.
Speaker A:I'm not really looking for the niggas, like, but if they want to come my way.
Speaker A:Come my way, come my way.
Speaker A:Fill out that application.
Speaker A:Let's see them credentials.
Speaker A:I need some references too, babe.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I feel like we checked in really cute.
Speaker A:It was a really cute check in.
Speaker A:We can yap and check in forever.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:But since we're talking about summer, you know, I am definitely taking one trip this summer, and it's probably gonna be my last.
Speaker A:Cause I'm tired.
Speaker A:My little cart is tired.
Speaker A:She's been swiped left right in the third.
Speaker B:But also, you've been to, like, you've been to Berlin, you've been to all the places.
Speaker B:So, you know, you've been.
Speaker A:Oh, this is crazy.
Speaker B:You've been around the world.
Speaker B:Ay, ay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe your car needs to see.
Speaker B:Maybe your car needs to rest, you.
Speaker A:Know, My car does need to rest.
Speaker A:She be telling me.
Speaker A:But speaking of traveling, summertime, it's like the height of when folks want to be outside, be on a beach.
Speaker A:And I get it.
Speaker A:I need the beach to cleanse me.
Speaker A:That's really.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If I don't have nothing once a year, I need a beach.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:But these flight costs.
Speaker A:I know you saw even just you going to.
Speaker A:I was going to say Columbus.
Speaker A:You going to Columbus.
Speaker A:I know I was high.
Speaker A:No, you went to Cleveland.
Speaker A:Essentially.
Speaker A:Like the high flight cost.
Speaker A:It should not cost.
Speaker A:Like, if you're going to Hub to Hub, why is the Flight 600 two weeks before the flight Craziness.
Speaker A:Craziness Makes sense.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Delta makes no sense.
Speaker B:Delta flights from Minneapolis to.
Speaker B:I love Delta, by the way.
Speaker A:Shout out to me too.
Speaker A:I'm a Delta girl.
Speaker B:I love Delta.
Speaker B:This is a Hate to Delta.
Speaker B:I love Delta, but hate to Delta.
Speaker A:Hate to them.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Flights from Minneapolis to Atlanta are pricey.
Speaker B:And I'm like that.
Speaker B:This is hub to hub.
Speaker B:Minneapolis is a Delta hub.
Speaker B:Atlanta is a Delta hub.
Speaker B:It should not be pricey.
Speaker B:I know the flight is cheaper from Minneapolis to LA or Minneapolis to New York than it is from Minneapolis to Atlanta.
Speaker B:It don't make no sense to me.
Speaker B:Not at all.
Speaker B:But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't make the rules, but yeah, they want to.
Speaker A:They want to keep your gay ass out.
Speaker A:They said you be flying here often.
Speaker A:We already got a little.
Speaker A:They surveilling you?
Speaker A:They said this search come up a little too often.
Speaker A:So we gonna tax.
Speaker A:Clearly you like this place.
Speaker A:No, it makes sense.
Speaker A:And it's just kind of crazy.
Speaker A:And then with the end of Spirit, First Heart goes out to all the Spirit employees who literally found out the day of that the company was closing.
Speaker A:Literally lived on assignment in different areas.
Speaker A:My heart goes out to all of them, especially the ones that.
Speaker A:It's like, you wouldn't be in Wyoming if it wasn't for Spirit, but you from Baltimore.
Speaker A:So now you gotta figure out how to get from Wyoming to Baltimore.
Speaker A:And you really suffered under the racial tensions of Wyoming.
Speaker A:And I'm just giving an example.
Speaker A:I don't know if there's.
Speaker A:I actually don't know this.
Speaker A:I'm just throwing this out there, but it's kind of crazy.
Speaker A:And then people are.
Speaker A:Some of, like, the discourse around, like, well, just get another job.
Speaker A:You saw that makeup artist, Charles.
Speaker B:James Charles.
Speaker A:James Charles.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:That was so irritating to watch.
Speaker A:That was cringe.
Speaker B:But his.
Speaker B:His commentary is always weird for the most part.
Speaker B:And so I don't really give a fuck about, you know, things that he says half the time.
Speaker B:But, like, how do you make it seem like you know people?
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I get it.
Speaker B:When you're popular, you're a celebrity, Everybody's in your DMs, everybody's trying to, like, get one from you.
Speaker B:Everybody.
Speaker B:Everybody is trying.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:But at the same time, you didn't have to say anything, though.
Speaker B:You could have just kept it pushing,.
Speaker A:You know, you didn't have to say anything.
Speaker A:And for the listeners, James Charles, a makeup artist with a bbl.
Speaker A:Cause let's talk about that epidemic, too.
Speaker A:This is total side.
Speaker A:You know, I be feeling like I hop everywhere, but I don't know what's up with these white makeup artists or makeup gurus that are getting bbls.
Speaker A:Like Arielle, That's Kylie Jenner's, like, I know too much of white people's business.
Speaker A:But her makeup artist got a BBL.
Speaker A:James Charles got a BBL.
Speaker A:James Charles received a little GoFundMe message from one of his followers and was like, hey, I just got laid off by Spirit.
Speaker A:Like, could you help contribute?
Speaker A:James Charles went online thinking that people was gonna be on his side and literally was like, no, bitch, get up and work.
Speaker A:Essentially sound like Kim Kardashian.
Speaker A:No one wants to work anymore.
Speaker A:Get another job.
Speaker A:Why you ask me for money?
Speaker A:And everyone was like, I don't know why you thought people were gonna cape for this.
Speaker A:But he got dragged and it's rough.
Speaker A:Like, I feel like celebrities in particular, if you get.
Speaker A:You should be used to people asking for money in your DMs.
Speaker A:You should.
Speaker A:And guess what?
Speaker A:That's what the requests are for.
Speaker A:Turn the messages, figure it out.
Speaker A:And also just realize how out of touch you are if someone's asking you for money.
Speaker A:Maybe think about why.
Speaker A:Because you're rich as fuck.
Speaker A:Because you are.
Speaker B:Are you gonna eat him first?
Speaker B:Cause I need.
Speaker A:I. I can't eat that silicone.
Speaker A:I really can't.
Speaker A:That's too much for me.
Speaker A:I actually wouldn't eat him first.
Speaker A:Who would I eat first?
Speaker B:I. I feel like.
Speaker B:I don't wanna know.
Speaker B:I feel like I gotta cancel us.
Speaker B:If you say.
Speaker A:If I.
Speaker A:If I say it, I'm gonna Think about it.
Speaker A:I'm gonna come back to it.
Speaker A:Cause I actually don't.
Speaker A:I feel like I need a good appetizer.
Speaker A:I can't just eat anybody.
Speaker A:Cause Beyonce is last.
Speaker A:So I need to save room for Queen Beyond.
Speaker A:I gotta save room for her.
Speaker B:But you know, I'm screaming.
Speaker B:I am screaming.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker A:I'm telling the truth.
Speaker A:A little hot sauce, a little chimichurri.
Speaker A:Oh, I could chow down.
Speaker A:I could chow down.
Speaker A:But it's the end of days, y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker A:We not gonna have protein then.
Speaker A:So I need y' all to rationalize that I'm not crazy.
Speaker A:But when we get to the end of days and there's a lot, there's a lot less protein.
Speaker A:Livestock has died off all the things we need to be thinking about who we're eating like we do and who we robbing before we eat.
Speaker B:I'm gonna be vegan.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, child.
Speaker A:I ain't never seen you be vegan in my life.
Speaker A:We'll see.
Speaker B:I'm gonna be Pinky Cole.
Speaker A:We'll get to her.
Speaker A:We are getting to her.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:So I gotta keep us in order.
Speaker A:And I'm not, I can't.
Speaker A:I'm only putting.
Speaker A:I'm only an air sign.
Speaker A:I'm only an air sign.
Speaker A:Dear God.
Speaker A:So James Charles said that.
Speaker A:But again, end of Spirit.
Speaker A:And then something beautiful came from the people.
Speaker A:Because the people always create something beautiful.
Speaker A:In the midst of greedy corporations,.
Speaker B:Old.
Speaker A:Frail looking billionaires and aged out politicians.
Speaker A:The people will always.
Speaker A:The people will always rise.
Speaker A:So they have been crowdsourcing for a people funded airline and it's called Spirit 2.0.
Speaker A:I think they're probably gonna change the name of course, but they are really doing the damn thing.
Speaker A:I looked while I heard about it before prepping for the show.
Speaker A:But when I looked to see how much they actually raised, I was like, let me.
Speaker A:I might need to get a piece of that pie for the people to earl on.
Speaker A:They raised $337 million already.
Speaker A:You're looking like over 300,000 pledges.
Speaker A:And their goal is 1.5 billion.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker A:So first of all, exactly, exactly their goal.
Speaker A:But I think they're going to meet their goal.
Speaker A:You already got 337 billion babies.
Speaker A:That airline is going up.
Speaker A:It's coming, it's coming.
Speaker A:So that.
Speaker A:And also their minimum pledge is $45.
Speaker A:So you really can like.
Speaker A:And they specifically $45 because they said that's the average price of a one way spirit ticket.
Speaker A:So I think it's really interesting.
Speaker A:Would you like first, would you.
Speaker A:We just talked about how the economy is rough.
Speaker A:I would be rubbing my couple pennies together to even fund this.
Speaker A:But would you be interested, interested in a people's funded airline that has like, you know, private equity of actual people who like get on airlines day in and day out?
Speaker A:I'm just curious.
Speaker A:You travel a lot?
Speaker B:Yes, I do.
Speaker B:I, I like the idea of a people's airline and I like the idea, I like the example that they gave about how the Green Bay packers is like the only community owned NFL team in the league and that is also work, working for them as well.
Speaker B:And so I guess that that's a, that's, that's a, that's a thing that can work.
Speaker B:I think that also airlines are also very specialized.
Speaker B:Like you gotta know what you're doing before you run an airline.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's not, you know, it's not fun and games.
Speaker B:It's not a truck, trucking company.
Speaker B:You know, you're taking people up in the air.
Speaker B:You know, I take it from point A to point B there are lots of FA regulations and all these things.
Speaker B:So, you know, I don't know.
Speaker B:I really don't know how this is going to turn out.
Speaker B:I'm going to be watching it very intently.
Speaker B:I like that people are being responsive.
Speaker B:I think what I would have liked a little bit before we think about, you know, buying an airline or creating an airline, the employees that were affected by this thing, how about we give them the money to.
Speaker B:Because it's hard to get a job.
Speaker B:As someone who was looking for a job for close to a year, it is hard to get a job.
Speaker B:And I think that it would have been helpful if we crowdfunded to like a spirit relief program.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so that, that 300 and something million dollars that has been raised, maybe X amount of SPIRIT employees have to prove, you know, proof of work, come with proof that you work that spirit and then you get access to that pot and you get maybe X amount of money before we think about buying the airline, you know, and so that would have a little bit more been more helpful for, for the folks that are in the, in the right now.
Speaker B:Because when you get laid off like that, I don't think you get a severance, I don't think you get pensions.
Speaker B:I assume you're just gone.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And that is, that is heartbreaking.
Speaker B:That is terrible.
Speaker B:You got bills to pay, you got rent to meet.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And I think that this is idea that we have that people are, you know, you got, you can Say everybody's saving money.
Speaker B:You know, I saved for this.
Speaker B:You know, I have six months rent already saved up.
Speaker B:But the way the economy is, you are lucky to have two months rent saved up.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:People are in debt.
Speaker B:People have a lot of things to go on, and people deserve to live a life.
Speaker B:I'm not here to pocket watch anybody, right?
Speaker B:And so I say all of that to say that the employees have huge, huge responsibilities that this layoff is going to affect.
Speaker B:I would rather us just give them some money for relief and then figure out how to, you know, get Spirit up and running or invest in Frontier or something or another budget airline or sun country, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I feel like I get the idea behind it, but I think that there are more immediate issues that we can tackle if we want to be a community around the people who are actually directly affected and impacted by this closure.
Speaker A:No, that's real.
Speaker A:I have all the things you said I agree with, and I have so many thoughts personally, when I'm not really interested in putting money towards this because I'm like, I feel like us as people outside of corporations, it's really ambiguous.
Speaker A:To start something to this magnitude doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it because I think that's demystifying the work that, you know, is possible, is part of the work, you know, but it just.
Speaker A:It does.
Speaker A:I think that's a beautiful point of how this money could be going to, you know, Spirit workers.
Speaker A:And, um, I'm pretty sure Spirit workers have to file a lawsuit to get their relief funds from Spirit.
Speaker A:I think they, you know, their pensions and all of that.
Speaker A:I. I saw one Spirit worker online say that because they were kind of in limbo of how the company shut down, they haven't been able to claim hardship on, like, their retirement accounts necessarily.
Speaker A:So they kind of have to, like, there's a lot of paperwork and a lot of tape to move through for them to even get, you know, the slightest amount of relief from the company that just dropped them.
Speaker A:So I definitely think that makes sense of, like, why are we investing in the next thing when people are clearly struggling?
Speaker A:Because the thing that just existed shut down.
Speaker A:And in my lifetime, I haven't seen an airline.
Speaker A:Well, actually, I think I was probably a little younger because I remember Continental Air.
Speaker A:My mama loved Continental Air.
Speaker A:I feel like back then it was really cute, a little affordable.
Speaker A:I think I might have went on that once for my mama to get to Louisiana because she didn't feel like driving that 18 hours from Virginia.
Speaker A:But I haven't seen an airline really fall in my lifetime.
Speaker A:So it's kind of.
Speaker A:This should be alarming to people.
Speaker A:This should be very alarming and show that big business actually does not give a fuck.
Speaker A:And they will shut down today, tomorrow, yesterday.
Speaker A:And then be like, sorry, babes.
Speaker A:You know, thanks for your service.
Speaker A:Really giving.
Speaker A:Thank.
Speaker A:Thank you for your services.
Speaker A:Very Shawnee o'.
Speaker A:Neal.
Speaker A:You know, so I was about to say shout out to her, but I don't.
Speaker A:She's a pastor's wife right now, so she may not even.
Speaker A:She probably does not care or even have a slightest clue or idea about us.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But I digress.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:I'm like, I'm gonna keep my eye on it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I. I was on the website and they had, like, resources for Spirit employees.
Speaker B:And when you click on that, it takes you to, like, I think the union page.
Speaker B:And it's like, oh, these are career fairs you can go to.
Speaker B:Here's the other career fees you could go to.
Speaker B:Here's how to track your unemployment.
Speaker B:Y' all have 300, and something million dollars in.
Speaker B:In, like, in a part right now?
Speaker A:Yeah, you have that.
Speaker B:You have that in a part right now.
Speaker B:Why don't we disburse that to the people who are currently unemployed who are.
Speaker B:Who are going to be.
Speaker B:Take them two, three months to get the unemployment.
Speaker B:Who are.
Speaker B:It's going to take them six, seven, eight months to find a job.
Speaker B:And I'm not even trying to be.
Speaker B:I'm not trying to exaggerate.
Speaker B:Jobs are hard to find if you have a job.
Speaker B:Keep your job if you have a job,.
Speaker A:Not if you.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker A:No matter how it is.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:No matter how bad the pay is.
Speaker B:No matter how uncomfortable.
Speaker B:Well, let me not say that, but I think my point, my ultimate point is that it's not great outside.
Speaker B:People are struggling.
Speaker B:It's hard in these streets.
Speaker B:And so I.
Speaker B:Jobs are hard to find in the era where jobs are hard to find.
Speaker B:Give from the pots to the people who need it the most.
Speaker B:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker A:Jobs are hard to find.
Speaker A:And, like, livable wages are hard to find.
Speaker A:If I see another job description for a manager, a Director, that's like $70,000.
Speaker A:And granted, I know that's a lot of money.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:But in the scheme of cost of living right now, like, I've had this conversation with a couple of my homies, if you're not making six figures, and even a low six figures is, people are finding it very difficult to survive on that because the cost of gas, the cost of housing, the cost of food, the cost if you have a child.
Speaker A:Oh, child, thank God I got this dog.
Speaker A:And the dog sitting costs a lot.
Speaker A:When I be going on these trips, I can't the dog sitting be ready to break me.
Speaker A:But I can't imagine if I had an actual human child.
Speaker A:I have some friends who they pay bank for daycare, for daycare.
Speaker A:And it's always been like that.
Speaker A:But now of all times, it's like, whew, child.
Speaker A:We need to be talking about how we can spread the pot around and not just create the things that, you know, feel missing.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna keep my eye on this.
Speaker A:But you made some good points, Harry, and I appreciate that.
Speaker A:So now it's time to get into the mess.
Speaker A:The mess.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker B:I love a good movie, I love.
Speaker A:Some mess, and I love reality TV trash.
Speaker A:So let's.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker A:Okay, so Love island is coming back early.
Speaker A:Like, early June.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I love Love Island.
Speaker A:I'm a die hard Love island fan before, you know, mainstream.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:Then I got put onto Love island uk.
Speaker A:Oh, I love the Brits.
Speaker A:Like, I have all the lingo.
Speaker A:I love it down.
Speaker A:So I'm excited.
Speaker A:But also.
Speaker B:Sorry to cut you.
Speaker B:I'm not really a Love island girly, but I know.
Speaker B:I know the things with the people in uk.
Speaker B:There was Dami and some chick.
Speaker A:India.
Speaker B:India.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay, you see?
Speaker B:So what's the tea?
Speaker B:Because I saw them on TikTok a lot together, and I thought they were cute.
Speaker B:I think Dami is Nigerian.
Speaker B:I thought.
Speaker B:I thought they were, like, cute together.
Speaker B:And all of a sudden, I heard Dami was crying.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Allegedly, I don't know.
Speaker A:But what happened?
Speaker B:What happened with Dami and India?
Speaker A:I think they had, like, a really tough breakup.
Speaker A:I think there was some cheating involved.
Speaker A:And then she kind of got aired out online for apparently cheating, but then come to find out she wasn't cheating and they were broken up.
Speaker A:She was on another show, some sort of, like, reality games.
Speaker A:Like Reality Star Game show on Netflix.
Speaker A:I forget what it's called.
Speaker A:And I think that person that she was, like, caught having a little rendezvous with was also on the show.
Speaker A:I think his name was Marlon.
Speaker A:Y' all probably don't give a fuck, but.
Speaker B:I want another thing you clean.
Speaker A:But I like to say he tried to out her as if she cheated.
Speaker A:She didn't cheat.
Speaker A:So that's kind of bubbled, like, die down.
Speaker A:A bit.
Speaker A:Which is good.
Speaker A:The Love island and they're like a old, old, old season for real at this point.
Speaker A:But Love Island UK as a whole is really just.
Speaker A:They have Love island uk, Australia.
Speaker A:They have a lot of them now.
Speaker A:They even have a Malta.
Speaker A:And I'm like, who is in Malta finding love?
Speaker A:But that's not my business.
Speaker A:But I am living for the stars that are coming out of the show.
Speaker A:Like India.
Speaker A:She is a star in her own right across the pond.
Speaker A:But love some Olandria.
Speaker A:I love Serena.
Speaker A:Serena Paige.
Speaker A:Love Lia Kateb.
Speaker B:I think Alondra is.
Speaker B:I think Alondra is very beautiful.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:Is her name Justine?
Speaker B:I think she's like.
Speaker A:I only.
Speaker B:I think I followed her.
Speaker B:But I saw her.
Speaker B:I saw her on Perfect Match or something.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And I followed her and then I see her video.
Speaker B:She be dancing.
Speaker B:She's very beautiful.
Speaker A:She loves to dance.
Speaker B:She loves to dance right below her.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay, cool.
Speaker B:Maybe I will tap in so that I can be in the know and maybe we can banter about it.
Speaker A:Yes, I think you should tap in just to see.
Speaker A:I don't know what this new season is giving.
Speaker A:Also Ariana Maddix is the host and she, you know, it became part of her little, you know, set of gigs after Scandal Ball.
Speaker A:And then Ciara actually is now gonna be the host of the after show.
Speaker A:Ciara from Summerhouse.
Speaker A:So they love to like take on the.
Speaker B:The girl scarred.
Speaker A:Yes, they do, they do.
Speaker A:The girls scorned.
Speaker A:They really do.
Speaker A:So it should be cute, it should be interesting.
Speaker A:I wanna warn you like ahead of time.
Speaker A:The Love island fandom is intense and they will do.
Speaker A:They will fight people in the name of these random people that they do not know.
Speaker A:So it has been rough.
Speaker A:Like I'm scared to even say Hooda's name because her.
Speaker A:Her battalion is.
Speaker A:Is thick and swift.
Speaker A:But you know, that was a whole controversy.
Speaker A:It'd be.
Speaker A:It'd be intense.
Speaker A:And then there's.
Speaker A:Isn't it.
Speaker A:It's like Back to the island or something.
Speaker A:Or after the island they have a show post the season.
Speaker A:So they have a couple of those.
Speaker B:Back to the Villa.
Speaker A:Back to the Villa.
Speaker A:Yes, back to the Villa.
Speaker A:And that was okay.
Speaker A:That also started a whole bunch of drama.
Speaker A:Cause girls apparently being bullies and shit.
Speaker A:But you know, the girls are gonna do what the girls are gonna do.
Speaker A:So it's like.
Speaker A:I definitely want you to keep it in your orbit.
Speaker A:I will be reminding you there are episodes every day besides Wednesday.
Speaker A:So it is intense.
Speaker A:Like you have to keep Up.
Speaker B:But like, that's the thing.
Speaker B:There's so much going on.
Speaker B:So much going on, so much to watch.
Speaker B:I am behind on a bunch of shows that I like.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, like, like I'm watching Imperfect Women with Kerry Washington and Elizabeth Moss and Kate Mara on Apple tv and they finished.
Speaker B:It's a really good show.
Speaker B:But because I'm caught up and I feel like I have to at least I try to watch my housewives.
Speaker B:I like to have my housewives watch my housewives.
Speaker B:But there's so much Perfect Match I started, I haven't started.
Speaker B:I haven't gotten into that.
Speaker B:There are a bunch of shows I'm watching, I'm watching the boys.
Speaker B:I love the boys.
Speaker B:So I try to catch up on that as well.
Speaker B:But it's just so much, it's so much stuff.
Speaker B:And then there's life.
Speaker A:There is.
Speaker B:Then I gotta go out and be a friend and be with people and then I gotta date and then I gotta eat and then I gotta edit, you know, I gotta work on podcasts and then I gotta have a job.
Speaker B:You know, it's crazy.
Speaker A:True, true.
Speaker A:A lot of times I'm just like, yes, I love reality TV trash.
Speaker A:And that's the way that I like disassociate from the world just cause like it's hard to not exist in all the things that are moving around and like doing socially social justice related work.
Speaker A:I just be tired and I just feel.
Speaker A:And honestly, I'm not even gonna hold you.
Speaker A:I like the trash that even the girlies love to judge about.
Speaker A:I'm definitely watching Zeus.
Speaker A:I'm definitely watching NowThis TV.
Speaker A:But I hate to say that.
Speaker B:Why though you like what you like?
Speaker A:I do like what I like.
Speaker A:But I also people, I understand the perceptions of black people deeply and also it's important that we watch the content.
Speaker A:I feel like it's important that we watch the content that is deeply impacting youth and deeply impacting a certain set of black people.
Speaker A:So we can know what we're up against.
Speaker A:And also just as stay tapped in.
Speaker A:It's for research, so I'm definitely for, you know.
Speaker A:It is for research.
Speaker A:It is for research.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:It is for research and also my, my pleasure.
Speaker A:Because I, yeah, I love watching a good fight and that's a whole other aside.
Speaker A:But yeah, that's just the Bad Girls club in me.
Speaker A:I'm like, if you came up in an era of reality TV during like Bad Girls Club, I feel like you have an affinity for some of that.
Speaker A:So I, you know, I understand it's not everybody's cup of tea.
Speaker A:It's not always my cup of tea, but it's like it's trash TV that I'll be needing to disassociate from the world.
Speaker A:But I digress.
Speaker B:I love rally tv, too.
Speaker B:I watch Chasing Atlanta, which is, you know, it could be a little spicy sometimes.
Speaker B:It's on YouTube.
Speaker B:So I watched that.
Speaker A:Is it a gay show?
Speaker B:It's gay.
Speaker B:It's gay.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a gay show.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes, I watch that.
Speaker B:Now that Stevie, I feel like now that Stevie and Zeus, I would get like.
Speaker B:I saw a couple episodes of Bad Boys Club.
Speaker B:I saw I Love Brady Purr a couple episodes of that.
Speaker B:Even though they were just fighting for no reason, like, that's really what they've been doing.
Speaker B:The girl needs to be fighting.
Speaker B:But I think that my challenge is the streaming numbers.
Speaker B:Like I said, like we said a couple of, you know, minutes ago, economy is not economy.
Speaker B:And so it's like, I have to pay for Nada's TV and Zeus and Peacock and Netflix.
Speaker B:And I started YouTube Premium.
Speaker B:And I must say, once you go YouTube Premium, you can't go back.
Speaker A:Don't come back because that is too expensive.
Speaker A:Come back.
Speaker B:You cannot go back.
Speaker B:Those watching YouTube videos without ads, without the stressors of trying to get me to buy another product.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Without hearing, liberty, Liberty, Liberty, everybody.
Speaker A:They do love that commercial on YouTube.
Speaker A:But I don't care.
Speaker A:I'm not paying for another thing.
Speaker A:Run the ad, babes.
Speaker A:And I'mma mute the tv.
Speaker A:I'mma walk away until my video come on.
Speaker B:So I'm going to cancel.
Speaker B:I'm going to.
Speaker B:I think I'm going to just cancel.
Speaker B:I'm going to cancel something.
Speaker B:I'm going to cancel Stars because I got stars because I thought P Value was coming.
Speaker B:So I got me some stock.
Speaker B:Cause that's my Cheryl.
Speaker B:I love P Valley.
Speaker A:I love P Valley.
Speaker A:But we don't know her anymore.
Speaker A:Apparently she's coming out this summer.
Speaker A:It's the summer babes.
Speaker A:That's what it said.
Speaker A:They said they're coming out this summer.
Speaker A:And I always end up seeing, like, the cast around Atlanta.
Speaker A:It's so funny because they shoot here.
Speaker A:I think they shoot here and I think a couple other places.
Speaker A:But they keep claiming that it's coming out this summer.
Speaker A:I'll believe it when I see it, and I won't.
Speaker A:I will get stars when it's running.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:You're better than me.
Speaker A:I'm shocked.
Speaker A:You still have stars.
Speaker A:You had stars this whole time waiting on P. Valley.
Speaker B:But also, I also.
Speaker B:I also pay annually so it's cheaper.
Speaker B:I don't have to think about it.
Speaker B:And so I think that's what happened.
Speaker B:But I need to be sure that it hasn't renewed, because that's the shit.
Speaker B:You just renew the shit.
Speaker B:And you don't even know they renew me.
Speaker B:And then your email goes to promotions.
Speaker B:You don't know that you renewed.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker A:You don't even know that's how my class pass be.
Speaker A:My class pass be like, you have renewed for another month.
Speaker A:And I'd be like, fuck.
Speaker A:Like, I'm trying to.
Speaker A:So I definitely understand that.
Speaker A:I definitely get it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I need to scale back on some subscriptions.
Speaker A:But it's so hard because at this point, subscriptions are having all these little subscriptions leads to like a cable bill.
Speaker A:That's like our cable bill of our time, honestly.
Speaker A:Yes, But.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And everything.
Speaker B:Everything is subscription.
Speaker B:Everything is subscription based now.
Speaker B:Like, everything.
Speaker B:You know, you can have to get a subscription for your phone to get icloud.
Speaker B:You got to get a subscription to get from.
Speaker B:Like, everything is subscription based.
Speaker B:And I'm like, I don't want to subscribe for anything.
Speaker B:I don't want to subscribe for anything.
Speaker B:I'll send you to a friend.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, I'm looking for ways that, you know, I can monetize, you know, my business so that I'm making money not just based on events.
Speaker B:When I'm making money, like, constantly.
Speaker B:And it's like, maybe you can start a subscription for your members.
Speaker B:And then like, I'm like, no.
Speaker B:Oh, why are we subscribing?
Speaker A:Hear that?
Speaker A:But like, people, I hear.
Speaker A:I was actually having this conversation with a friend of mine yesterday because we have a femme collective called Femme Fatale in Atlanta, and we essentially are trying to build different groups of belonging and ways that folks can build with each other without a party scene, of course.
Speaker A:But sometimes we do party.
Speaker A:And she was like, yeah, I feel like people don't necessarily feel invested or tied to something if they don't have a membership.
Speaker A:And I'm like, true.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But in this economic time, it's like, it's hard to ask people to become a member.
Speaker A:It's hard to ask people to, like, commit their money in such hardship because it's like, who.
Speaker A:Everyone's.
Speaker A:Everyone wants a couple of $5 a month or $7.
Speaker A:Everyone wants that.
Speaker A:These websites, if you need Adobe, Adobe's like, give me 13 bucks a month, babes.
Speaker A:If you need, you know, it's just, it's actually getting absurd and we.
Speaker A:In this digital age, it's really hard to not have your money just taken out your pockets by whatever services.
Speaker A:And you have Netflix using VPNs essentially on people so they don't.
Speaker A:So they can't have share the same account.
Speaker A:But babes, I'm changing that household every time.
Speaker A:I'm changing the household every time and I don't give a fuck.
Speaker B:I feel like back in the day you could be on the free plan and it's not so bad.
Speaker B:Like you could.
Speaker B:It wasn't so bad.
Speaker B:Right now the free plan is bad.
Speaker B:The free plan doesn't have anything for you.
Speaker B:There is nothing of the free plan.
Speaker B:They want you to subscribe, pay for every single thing.
Speaker B:Like, oh, I'm done.
Speaker A:No, for real, for real.
Speaker A:I feel like we're definitely getting far.
Speaker A:But you know, reality television, Speaking of reality television, Summer House.
Speaker A:I'm not watching Summer House because I, I have a limit on like white centered or white people content.
Speaker A:So if there's too many white people on the cast, I might not watch.
Speaker A:And Summer House has been one of those.
Speaker A:And of course like Ciara has been the star of Summer House for quite some time.
Speaker A:And with the whole controversy of Ciara Amanda West, I haven't been watching it, but I'm tuning in for this reunion.
Speaker A:I'm tuning in.
Speaker B:Me too.
Speaker A:Like drag Amanda, drag Wes and I.
Speaker A:My thing is, and this is how I feel about the queer community too.
Speaker A:Like in Atlanta, a large.
Speaker A:My whole thought is find somebody else to hump.
Speaker A:It's not that fucking hard.
Speaker A:Find somebody else to fuck.
Speaker A:Why do we have.
Speaker A:Why it has to be one degree over?
Speaker A:Just there's.
Speaker A:It's so easy.
Speaker A:All the people in the world, babes and you choose your quote unquote best friend's ex boyfriend that she on this current season is still having lingering feelings with and he's still dragging it as well.
Speaker A:What may and you are in a marriage, they're separated.
Speaker A:So you have a lot of gall.
Speaker A:You have a lot of gall white woman to go after your girl who literally she experienced you.
Speaker A:Because I've seen a lot of clips.
Speaker A:I love a clip.
Speaker A:Threads got clips from me.
Speaker A:TikTok got clips from me.
Speaker A:If I see too many clips, I'm not watching the episode of any show.
Speaker A:Okee?
Speaker A:You let her comfort you through your abusive ass relationship and then you turn around and get underneath her ex boyfriend.
Speaker A:You're sick.
Speaker A:You're sick and you're Not.
Speaker A:And I don't think a girl's girl is a compliment, but you just aren't a friend.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not a fan of the girls girl commentary, but you're just not a friend at all.
Speaker A:You're an enemy.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:I am curious because I don't want.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:I want to take you back.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You said this is what happens in the queer community in Atlanta.
Speaker B:So bia.
Speaker B:Are you saying that in Atlanta the queers be sleeping with people's boy, people's best friends, partners.
Speaker B:Is that like a normal thing that happens over there in.
Speaker B:In where you reside?
Speaker A:You're so messy.
Speaker A:I think I would say that that overlaps.
Speaker A:The cheating does happen from time to time.
Speaker A:But I do.
Speaker A:I have experienced people breaking up and then they like end up dating a little too close to that friend group or in the friend group.
Speaker A:And it's like verbs.
Speaker A:You could have picked someone else.
Speaker A:All these gays out here.
Speaker A:You could throw a rock and hit a dike.
Speaker A:Why couldn't you find somebody else?
Speaker A:Like, that's the thing.
Speaker A:Like, there's so many people in the world.
Speaker A:You couldn't find anyone else to hump.
Speaker A:You have to.
Speaker A:You have to date your friend's acquaintance.
Speaker A:Your, Your, Your ex's acquaintance.
Speaker A:That doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker A:So it's like, yes, I.
Speaker A:But that's just me.
Speaker A:People have different moral standards and codes.
Speaker A:I personally feel like you can't date a little too.
Speaker A:And it should be weird for both people.
Speaker A:Like the ex of whoever shouldn't be like, yeah, let's try it.
Speaker A:No, you are literally.
Speaker A:That's so weird to me.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:But yes, I see it a lot.
Speaker A:It's not just Atlanta, it's Minneapolis.
Speaker A:It's everywhere.
Speaker A:People just think their love is so.
Speaker B:Important.
Speaker A:Because y' all gay too.
Speaker A:Y' all gay too.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Y' all gay too.
Speaker A:So I don't, I don't really.
Speaker A:I don't want to hear it.
Speaker A:Like, it's a bad rep. You said.
Speaker B:The quirk of media in Atlanta is known for this.
Speaker B:You said, you said it was known for this.
Speaker B:In not many words.
Speaker B:She said the Atlanta gays be hooking up with people's friends.
Speaker B:That's what you said.
Speaker A:That's where I live.
Speaker A:But I know for a fact that y' all gays, California, Texas, New York, Minneapolis, Detroit, all y' all hunch on each other's.
Speaker A:On each other's people.
Speaker A:It's definitely not particular to Atlanta.
Speaker A:But yeah, they be Hunching on each other's people.
Speaker A:And I just, I have a different opinion about it and some people feel more comfortable with it, but I.
Speaker A:My thing is your love is not that important.
Speaker A:Is this the love of your life?
Speaker A:Probably not.
Speaker A:Is it worth it?
Speaker A:And that's how I feel about Ciara Amanda and Wes.
Speaker A:Amanda, you snatch up your best friend's ex boyfriend, like recent ex boyfriend.
Speaker A:Y' all are not in love.
Speaker B:You know, according, according to, according to the, the, what's the word?
Speaker B:According to the language that was used, they were not officially dating.
Speaker B:They were a situationship that extended a little bit, you know, more than normal, you know, but she went over and met his family and all that good stuff.
Speaker B:But they were not official.
Speaker B:They were just a relationship.
Speaker A:That's, that's, that's a crock of shit.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:So you betrayed your best friend for a situationship.
Speaker A:You betrayed your best friend to not even be claimed.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:That's even more insane.
Speaker B:No, Ciara was the one in the situationship.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Oh, so still Ciara got dibs.
Speaker A:Like she had dibs.
Speaker B:Yes, yes, I get what you're saying.
Speaker A:They were boyfriend and girlfriend.
Speaker B:They were, they were moving like that, you know, they were moving like that for sure.
Speaker B:But I, but like, yeah, I think that, you know, not to just stray away from, you know, I'm not to be messy, but I think that because of the queer community is always small.
Speaker B:I think we are how many percent of the population, right?
Speaker B:So the, the, the, the, it's a small percentage.
Speaker B:I think there will be overlap and sometimes these overlaps are not intentional.
Speaker B:I don't think they're always intentional.
Speaker B:I don't think sometimes people go out of their way a court spaces.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm not saying that I'm going to go and hook up in my, you know, someone should go and hook up with their friend's best friend or their best friend's partner.
Speaker B:No, but I'm saying that you could have, you could find out that, okay, you and your friend have an overlap with someone that you probably did not know that your friend was hooking up with at some point, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So overlaps happen in queer spaces.
Speaker B:You know, sometimes.
Speaker B:I'm not trying to defend, you know, please.
Speaker A:No, I hear you, but I'm, you know, I'm not about to eat you up because I'm like, why do you have that opinion, Harry?
Speaker A:And that's because the, the gays do it different.
Speaker A:The gays do it different.
Speaker A:Y'.
Speaker A:All don't give a. Y' all actually don't give a.
Speaker A:And I do think y' all should give more of a. I give a, though.
Speaker B:I. I will not go ahead and hook up with my friends.
Speaker B:Anybody that my friend has hooked up with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or dated.
Speaker B:I would try to keep that away.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So, yeah, I try to be them.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:That makes sense.
Speaker A:Yeah, I just.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:We'll see how the reunion turns out over the three part series.
Speaker A:Andy is so.
Speaker A:And Andy is so shady.
Speaker A:Andy was like, so, are y' all in love?
Speaker A:Great question.
Speaker A:Andy, are y' all in love?
Speaker A:Is it worth it?
Speaker A:And that's the thing.
Speaker A:People don't be thinking about if something is worth it or not.
Speaker A:And I think that's the thing is like some.
Speaker A:Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm intrigued.
Speaker A:I may not watch the full three parts because I feel like part three, we probably get the most of it in part two, most of the mess.
Speaker A:And then part three will be a little bit of the lingering and then some like, weird questions from like Susie in Idaho or some shit.
Speaker A:It's gonna be something weird.
Speaker A:It's gonna be something weird at the third because they never.
Speaker A:They're gonna show some behind the scenes clips, some bloopers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Susie from Idaho.
Speaker B:Susie's a nice lady who's living in Idaho and she's catching.
Speaker A:But Susie is a nice lady that lives in Idaho.
Speaker A:But why?
Speaker A:She asked that messy ass question.
Speaker A:They love to be like, Susie from Idaho asked Amanda, why are you such a slut?
Speaker A:It'd be like, what?
Speaker A:Like Susie.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:Damn, Susie.
Speaker A:You got.
Speaker A:It's hating your heart.
Speaker A:Like, these questions be so charged.
Speaker A:And Andy just be asking it with a straight face.
Speaker A:Andy, why'd you just ask that person if, like, what's going on with their vagina from Susie?
Speaker A:Like, why?
Speaker B:It's crazy.
Speaker B:But I hear you.
Speaker A:That's how it be.
Speaker A:It's like the production make this up because it's kind of far fetched.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Poo child.
Speaker A:Well, based off another Bravo, you know, what is it?
Speaker A:Staple Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker A:How are you feeling about this cast?
Speaker B:I love this cast.
Speaker B:No notes.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:I love the cast.
Speaker B:I think that eight peach holders is a lot of peach holders.
Speaker B:So maybe one more person can be a friend of.
Speaker B:I think Phaedra should be a friend of Phaedra and Cynthia can be friends off and the cast can stay as is.
Speaker B:I don't think anybody should live.
Speaker B:I think they found a dynamic that Works that brings the drama.
Speaker B:I know that there's a divide in the group, clearly, but if that.
Speaker B:But it's Housewives.
Speaker B:There's always been a divide.
Speaker B:I feel like I don't remember there not being a divide in the group.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think that I am.
Speaker B:I'm still down for it.
Speaker B:I think that I like the cast.
Speaker B:I think they're really cool.
Speaker B:They're really interesting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just make Phaedra a friend of and then we're good.
Speaker B:Phaedra and Cynthia can be problematic.
Speaker B:Or better still, make Cynthia.
Speaker B:Well, Cynthia doesn't want to be a housewife anymore.
Speaker B:She wants to.
Speaker B:She likes.
Speaker B:She likes a friend of Rose.
Speaker B:So maybe Phaedra and Cynthia friends off and then keep the cast as is.
Speaker A:Hmm.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker A:I've been liking Phaedra this season as an actual housewife.
Speaker A:I personally think her.
Speaker A:I think her return should be studied.
Speaker A:She's a good time.
Speaker A:She's a good time.
Speaker A:I like that she doesn't take herself too seriously because when she first started on Real Housewives, she took herself too seriously, but not seriously enough because she didn't know how long she was pregnant for.
Speaker A:She Apollo needed to get away from her with that stuff, you know, all the things.
Speaker A:But I think she's really playful.
Speaker A:I love the energy that she brings to the show.
Speaker A:And she's pretty open.
Speaker A:I love how she's, like, open around, like, you know, her kids in this, like, transition of like, high school, college.
Speaker A:You know, we've seen them grow up on tv.
Speaker A:It's really wild to see them grow up on tv.
Speaker A:And her dating life is a little messy, so it kind of gives a she.
Speaker A:I think her and Portia paired together and how they're maneuvering is kind of cute.
Speaker A:I love the return of freaking frat.
Speaker B:They can be freaking.
Speaker B:Fred can exist within a friend of and housewife dynamic.
Speaker B:Portia can meet the housewife.
Speaker B:She can be the friend of.
Speaker B:Phaedra doesn't have any personal story, though.
Speaker A:She does.
Speaker B:What is her personal story?
Speaker A:She's about to be an empty nester.
Speaker A:She is a.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:I was about to say?
Speaker A:She's a funeral daughter.
Speaker B:Empty nester.
Speaker A:She is.
Speaker B:It is like 15 or 14.
Speaker A:No, they're close to, like, graduating or one has graduated.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:You know what you want to keep.
Speaker A:You want to talk about Phaedra when Kelly is right there.
Speaker A:Off with her.
Speaker A:Get Kelly off the screen.
Speaker B:Kelly is giving story.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Her baby daddy has given her issues.
Speaker B:Her restaurant is about to get shut down.
Speaker B:Her.
Speaker A:But it's not.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Why would you say.
Speaker A:Say that?
Speaker A:She.
Speaker B:She's about to file bankruptcy.
Speaker B:Allegedly.
Speaker B:She was hooking up with someone who was married.
Speaker B:Allegedly, according to Portia.
Speaker B:And they are having that back and forth.
Speaker B:She's activating Portia, causing a lot of drama.
Speaker B:She is.
Speaker B:Kelly is needed.
Speaker B:Kelly is needed.
Speaker A:No shade.
Speaker A:No shade to Kelly.
Speaker A:No shade to Kelly.
Speaker A:But she is kind of a poser.
Speaker A:I think she's living above her means.
Speaker A:In a recent confessional, she wore a white T shirt in that bitch.
Speaker B:That is fine.
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker A:It's not fine.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:That is making for a good housewife, though.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:She's giving me a Thornton energy, and I am unsure how I feel about her because her reads just be a little too.
Speaker A:They're not.
Speaker A:They don't give reads.
Speaker A:It just gives her yelling and, like, giving some.
Speaker A:Like some insults here and there.
Speaker A:So it's like, I wouldn't mind if she's a friend of.
Speaker A:I think she has more of the capacity to be a friend of.
Speaker A:She's going through a lot.
Speaker A:I feel like she should focus on her restaurants, focus on the hus.
Speaker A:The husband that she fucking.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:She needs to focus on that.
Speaker A:Personally.
Speaker A:That's how I feel.
Speaker A:Allegedly.
Speaker A:Allegedly.
Speaker A:Allegedly.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:Allegedly Kelly.
Speaker A:But I personally feel like she don't need to be there.
Speaker A:Shamia.
Speaker A:I feel like Shamia's going out sad this season.
Speaker A:She's going out sad?
Speaker B:I don't think so.
Speaker A:I feel like she's riding.
Speaker A:She's riding the tension that she has with these girls.
Speaker A:The little bit of tension, the little bit of drama.
Speaker A:She's riding it out a little bit too much, and she's like, why does everyone keep talking about Portia?
Speaker A:Why does everyone keep talking about Portia?
Speaker A:Because you haven't talked about it, and y' all are just sitting there in each other's faces like, y' all are cool.
Speaker A:But, you know, I just.
Speaker A:Eh.
Speaker A:Shamia.
Speaker A:I'm on the fence.
Speaker A:I was really happy that she became a housewife.
Speaker A:It was well deserved after being a friend of for so long or being like a guest.
Speaker A:But at the same time, she's kind of going out a little sadder than I hoped.
Speaker A:I think the dynamics are not.
Speaker A:Work.
Speaker A:Will not work out in her favor by the end of the season.
Speaker A:You know, she's going super hard on Drew, and it's like there's nothing there.
Speaker A:Babes.
Speaker A:And even Drew wants to end it.
Speaker A:Even Drew's like, why can't she just talk to me?
Speaker B:But she is trying to end it with Drew.
Speaker B:But Drew doesn't want to apologize for her role in the dynamics.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:And I think that.
Speaker B:Say what you want about Shamia, she could be cringy, allegedly.
Speaker B:She could be all the things.
Speaker B:I feel like she just shared something intimate with the wrong people.
Speaker B:We all talk about our friends in a way that if.
Speaker B:If you have a friend that does something to you, you're gonna go to another friend.
Speaker B:I'd be like, I hate what this person did.
Speaker B:They really pissed me off.
Speaker B:Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:And I think that the onux is on you to take that information with the emotional intelligence to know that, okay, fine, my friend is upset about this other friend, right?
Speaker B:I don't want to douse tensions, right?
Speaker B:I'm gonna let him work it out.
Speaker B:I'm gonna let him sort it out.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:They're gonna have to deal with it, but in a way that was not gonna dissolve their friendship.
Speaker B:I don't think that Shamir was given that grace to do that, which is why she's upset, and rightfully so.
Speaker B:Now, all the things that happen afterwards or the things that happened before with the alliance, other things.
Speaker B:Or where she goes on an apology on her YouTube channel or where she does this in the thing, you know, or where she shakes her ass in the boardroom, that.
Speaker A:I like that.
Speaker B:That is a little cringe, and that's what it is.
Speaker B:But I think that she has every reason to be weary about, like, y' all are the reasons why y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:We had.
Speaker B:Yes, there was an issue here with me and this person, but all you could have done was let me handle it.
Speaker B:I was fixing it.
Speaker B:It wasn't your business to butt in and try and fix.
Speaker B:And I think that is.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:That is where I'm with her.
Speaker B:And the idea that everything that goes wrong, okay, now we're gonna blame it on you.
Speaker B:Does not make any sense at all.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Which is why I'm like, okay, fine.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did she make.
Speaker A:But she is pot stirring.
Speaker A:She is pot stirring.
Speaker A:I feel like the whole K. Michelle, Portia dynamic, she is posturing a little bit.
Speaker B:K. Michelle said she wasn't the one that I told her.
Speaker B:You don't believe K. Michelle that you said that?
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:I believe it, but I think.
Speaker A:And also, I did like how K. Michelle Was like, you saying all this stuff on the side about Drew, but K. Michelle, no shade.
Speaker A:I actually have been a fan of K. Michelle on reality, but she has never gotten it right with women in reality television, and for a bunch of reasons.
Speaker A:But I do think K. Michelle should be talking to people's faces and not Twitter, you know?
Speaker A:Cause lately I've just been like, girl, this is why you're on the show.
Speaker A:And I think that's been some of her critique recently.
Speaker A:People are like, you have so much to say in these confessionals.
Speaker A:You know, you have so much to say on Twitter.
Speaker A:But when you in front of these women, I think she just doesn't want to give it a moment.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:I understand.
Speaker A:I think she doesn't want to do rah rah shit that people used to from Love and Hip Hop because I think she doesn't want to be put in that category again.
Speaker A:So I feel like she is censoring herself a little bit so that she's not seen as.
Speaker A:Cause all the.
Speaker A:All the commentary about, oh, love from Giselle and Robin, the Blue Eye, Green Eyed Bandits, them talking about, oh, it's giving real love and hip hop, this ain't the network for it.
Speaker A:And, you know, I think she's trying to already not deal with that perception, but it's limiting her in so many different ways and how she's engaging with these women.
Speaker A:Of course, these women are shady.
Speaker A:You should not trust them.
Speaker A:Of course.
Speaker A:But you're here to do a job.
Speaker A:You signed up.
Speaker A:Get into the pieces.
Speaker A:Let's get.
Speaker A:Get into the pieces.
Speaker A:Babes talk.
Speaker A:Don't no fingers talk.
Speaker B:I think that I get it.
Speaker B:Like, I get it.
Speaker B:I feel like.
Speaker B:I feel like with K. Michelle, she just has to be comfortable and she has to find her rhythm and a dynamic with them.
Speaker B:And I think that if you have the history.
Speaker B:If you have the history that she has, or someone with a history of reality TV is gonna walk with caution.
Speaker B:Because also, this is.
Speaker B:You're also on Bravo.
Speaker B:You're not on VH1 anymore.
Speaker B:You're not on.
Speaker B:No offense, the other platforms.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:You are on Bravo, which is for.
Speaker B:No, I'm not trying to be.
Speaker B:I'm never trying to be anything right.
Speaker B:Bravo is when it comes to reality tv, they're like the standard.
Speaker B:Everybody aspires to be on Bravo because that's what gives me.
Speaker B:Because it's a whole.
Speaker B:When you are on Bravo, you're a Bravo.
Speaker B:You're Bravo Liberty.
Speaker B:You have all the things.
Speaker B:It's like a whole world opens for you when you're on Bravo.
Speaker B:And now that she has had her in after so many years of wanting to be on Bravo, she's going to try really hard not to mess it up.
Speaker B:And so she's going to try really hard not to pop off on anybody.
Speaker B:Not to pour a drink, you know, not to flip a table, right?
Speaker B:Not to do the things that people were already assuming she would do when they already was announced that she was going to come on the show, right?
Speaker B:Because for some reason, if you have love and hip hop in your background, you're going to declass the show.
Speaker B:And I think that.
Speaker B:Because you can say that, you could say that, but that is the truth perpetuated by a bunch of black people, right?
Speaker B:And so it's like, okay, now that I have that in the back of my mind, I'm gonna have to be mindful.
Speaker B:Also, I have seen.
Speaker B:I haven't had a good experience with reality tv, and I've seen how this girl can smile at this girl's face and say something that is so damning in the same breath, right?
Speaker A:Because Kelly took me.
Speaker A:Kelly.
Speaker A:Her reads be a little much, but when she said that Portia had a Philly cheesesteak hot pocke or something along those lines, that took me.
Speaker A:She said, I would never scissor you like.
Speaker A:I was like, girl.
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker A:And it doesn't give that.
Speaker A:But also, people will try Portia because they know that she'll.
Speaker A:She might entertain it, you know, on a little lady pond of things.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker A:And I'm.
Speaker A:I am on the fence about this cast.
Speaker A:You know, Kelly, K. Michelle, Mia.
Speaker A:I'm on the fence about it.
Speaker A:Drew.
Speaker A:Even Drew.
Speaker A:That's the one who I think is.
Speaker A:Oh, we haven't talked about Pinky.
Speaker A:I typically am not a fan of alleged wage stealers.
Speaker A:As someone who lives in Atlanta, slutty vegan has taken a bit of a turn in the discourse.
Speaker A:Like, I did like the burgers.
Speaker A:I did not enough.
Speaker A:I did also feel like I had too much soy back in that era anyway.
Speaker A:But I. Pinky Cole is interesting.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna.
Speaker A:I hate to call a black woman aggressive, but she be coming out to play a little too hard.
Speaker A:She be having something to prove.
Speaker A:Like she popped it at Angela and I said, not my Angela, you know, but she's.
Speaker A:She will serve a place.
Speaker A:I think she is like the floater between the two groups in some way.
Speaker A:Like the group of Phaedra.
Speaker A:Portia I hate.
Speaker A:It's kind of crazy Drew and Angela.
Speaker A:Who would have thought that would have been a group?
Speaker A:And then Kelly, Shamia, Kay Bichell.
Speaker A:It seems like they're forming into, like, a little group as well.
Speaker A:So I don't know.
Speaker A:I. I'm on the fence about Pinky, but I also think this is part of an image cleanup.
Speaker A:In my opinion, we're humanizing her a little bit.
Speaker B:You know, that is interesting.
Speaker B:I never thought about it that way, but I. I did hear the critiques about, you know, her allegedly with the thing, you know, where Angela said, I could throw a rock.
Speaker A:And hit somebody.
Speaker A:You owe.
Speaker B:And I think he proves my point that they Googled each other before they come on the show.
Speaker B:They Google each other, they reset, they do their research.
Speaker B:Whether they do it on Google or Chat GPT or whatever they do it on.
Speaker B:They go and check and be like.
Speaker B:And then they come up with their rehearsed reads.
Speaker B:Because I feel like some.
Speaker B:You know, that's what they do.
Speaker B:And then they have their.
Speaker A:Reminds me of Beverly Hills.
Speaker B:Oh, what happened to Beverly Hills?
Speaker A:I love Beverly.
Speaker A:Well, they got mad because someone was like, yeah, I looked you up on Chad gbt.
Speaker A:Or like, I looked you up on Google.
Speaker A:And it's like, that's what everyone does by.
Speaker A:Beverly Hills will always be, you know, it's a show.
Speaker A:But I'm like, it'll always sell platinum in this house.
Speaker A:I'm always watching it.
Speaker B:There's a critique that it was boring.
Speaker B:I think Sarah Michelle Geller said it was boring, and Andy Corinne was not having it.
Speaker A:Who is she?
Speaker A:Buffy.
Speaker A:Buffy.
Speaker A:Who are you to tell us that is boring?
Speaker A:Buffy, get to acting.
Speaker A:Is there a scary movie 5 or whatever the fuck is Ghost to?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:Buffy, how are you?
Speaker A:Why are you giving reality TV critiques?
Speaker A:Get on the studio lot.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It can be a little boring.
Speaker A:It can be.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:But I also live for some of the Housewives, so.
Speaker A:And that's why I've been enjoying it.
Speaker A:Not the.
Speaker A:Not the tongue pop child.
Speaker A:It has been.
Speaker A:It has been entertaining to me because I have been fond of Beverly Hills over the past couple of years.
Speaker A:But I'm like, everyone looks everyone up.
Speaker A:Build a bridge.
Speaker A:You went on the show.
Speaker A:Everyone knows who the people are, gathering their reads, writing out there, notating some things.
Speaker A:Some folks are better than others at reads, of course, but I keep Angela talking about them incestuous teeth you got.
Speaker A:That was so Angela, the mvp.
Speaker A:She gives like.
Speaker A:I'm so.
Speaker A:I'm glad that she Actually.
Speaker A:Cause she gives the same energy in different ways that Stacey on Potomac gives me of, like, stand out.
Speaker A:She cannot be phased.
Speaker A:She cannot be rattled.
Speaker A:And she's gonna give you a good read.
Speaker A:And, you know, that's what I really love.
Speaker A:And I think she.
Speaker A:She should be here for as long as.
Speaker A:She should be here as long as Cynthia was stay.
Speaker A:That's just.
Speaker B:I love Cynthia, though.
Speaker B:That's my girl.
Speaker B:I've always loved Cynthia.
Speaker A:That's my girl.
Speaker B:People are like, oh, she's boring.
Speaker B:I was like, not to me, she wasn't.
Speaker B:Not to me, she wasn't.
Speaker B:I was like, where the dog died?
Speaker A:Cynthia is a friend to the end.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker B:And she's friends with her.
Speaker B:I love Cynthia.
Speaker A:She's friends with every.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She's friends with everybody.
Speaker A:And she be standing.
Speaker A:She be standing on her own.
Speaker A:And I really appreciate, like, with the trip, the Dallas trip.
Speaker A:Oh, she said, why are we still talking about the rooms?
Speaker A:Like, she said, are y' all trying to ruin my trip at this point?
Speaker A:Like, that?
Speaker A:She just be getting to it.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:It's just at the nature of her being on the show for so long.
Speaker A:Like, she knows and people respect her.
Speaker A:Her.
Speaker A:Her role.
Speaker A:People do.
Speaker A:And I love that.
Speaker A:I really do.
Speaker A:We could talk about this all day.
Speaker B:All day long.
Speaker A:All day long.
Speaker A:And so for our last little topic, this is a little segment I created, and Harry has.
Speaker A:How do I say?
Speaker A:Harry has gone along with it.
Speaker A:So, yeah, shout out to Harry for letting me do what I want to do.
Speaker A:So this segment is called don't talk to me Unless it's about.
Speaker A:And this is for all the random, kooky, weird shit that you're obsessing about.
Speaker A:And I can go first because I have a little list, and I probably will riff a little bit.
Speaker A:Don't talk to me unless it's about chicken Caesar salad wraps, dogs doing gymnastics.
Speaker B:Mm hmm.
Speaker A:Kehlani, Alex, Isley, Lakan, I love Lacon right now.
Speaker A:R and B, R and B got my heart.
Speaker A:Um, bounce.
Speaker A:R and B bounce music.
Speaker A:Like, right now I'm any.
Speaker A:You know what gets me?
Speaker A:If I ever am feeling low, I can listen to bounce music.
Speaker A:But specifically Anita Baker bounce music.
Speaker A:I want to hear caught up in the rapture while yo boy shake, shake, shake, shake your boy Like I want to hear that.
Speaker A:I do, I do.
Speaker A:Because guess what?
Speaker A:I'm a young hoe.
Speaker A:Remix the classics.
Speaker A:Remix them, remix them.
Speaker A:I want to hear it.
Speaker B:I'm sure there is a balanced classic Saturday Baker caught up in a rapture.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker A:Oh, I listened to it.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker A:Yes, there currently is.
Speaker A:And also, it's getting warmer.
Speaker A:Shout out to the real that have a towel over their shoulder because it's so hot outside.
Speaker A:Shout out to you.
Speaker A:Shout out to you.
Speaker A:Harry's like, I don't know what you're talking about, but shout out to you.
Speaker A:Shout out to the.
Speaker A:To the.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:That was Rondo.
Speaker A:I'm talking about MASC folks generally.
Speaker A:CIS men too, you know, Throw that towel over your shoulder.
Speaker A:Babes, get on that grill.
Speaker A:Where are the men that want to work?
Speaker A:Get on the grill.
Speaker A:Get on the grill.
Speaker A:Build something.
Speaker A:Build my deck.
Speaker A:Babes, like, shout out to that.
Speaker A:Shout out to that.
Speaker A:Don't talk to me unless it's about men that work.
Speaker A:Men that shut up and work.
Speaker A:That's what I want to talk about and what I want to hear.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm off my soapbox.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:That was a very expensive list.
Speaker B:I think I could come with a list.
Speaker B:Now that I know.
Speaker B:Now that I know I could cover it.
Speaker B:A full on list.
Speaker B:I would bring a list.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But I was gonna say Kelani as well, because that album still has me in a chokehold.
Speaker B:I wanna.
Speaker B:I wanna move on to something else.
Speaker B:I wanna go listen to something else.
Speaker B:But I'm still stuck on the album.
Speaker B:I don't know why I am.
Speaker A:I am.
Speaker A:I'm in my feelings.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I really hope she cleans up this season.
Speaker A:I really hope she cleans up.
Speaker A:She gets her.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker A:Are you going to the tour?
Speaker B:Yes, I am.
Speaker B:I'll find the money.
Speaker B:I will scrape and break and beg and, you know, you know, I will do the things.
Speaker A:But yeah, I might be at.
Speaker A:I might be at Kehlani.
Speaker A:Are you going to Joe Scott?
Speaker B:No, I'm not.
Speaker B:I like the album, though, but I'm not going.
Speaker A:I love the album.
Speaker A:She told them.
Speaker B:You know, I feel about concerts, I need a little bit more, you know, I just did a little more.
Speaker B:Just a little more.
Speaker B:Unless I'm going to a jazz club with like.
Speaker B:With like a mic and lights and then like tables and chairs and it's intimate.
Speaker B:I would do Jill Scott there.
Speaker B:I'll do Elmin there.
Speaker B:I would do Lauryn Hill there.
Speaker B:I'll do anyone there in that kind of setting, I'm not gonna do you in an arena.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I won't gonna do you in an arena where you're not gonna give me pop lock break.
Speaker B:What's that?
Speaker A:She gonna have people dancing around her.
Speaker A:I feel like it.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:But, like, I don't know.
Speaker B:I need.
Speaker B:I would do her in an intimate setting.
Speaker B:I wouldn't do her in the.
Speaker B:You know, I want you to pop rock and break and shake.
Speaker B:You know, I don't know what Disney shadow is from.
Speaker B:I like to pop rock and break and shake.
Speaker A:No, for real.
Speaker A:Oh, she's at the Fox Theater.
Speaker A:So that.
Speaker A:That's not a terrible venue in Atlanta.
Speaker B:That could be intimate, too.
Speaker A:That could be.
Speaker A:It can be.
Speaker B:That could be intimate.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I would do that.
Speaker B:And I heard that y' all are not going with your phones.
Speaker B:They're gonna lock your phones up, so.
Speaker A:They gonna be snatching phones left and right.
Speaker A:That's because Jill don't want no viral content of her on that mic.
Speaker A:She don't want that.
Speaker A:But I understand.
Speaker A:Let's create actual moments and not be on the phone, so I totally get it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Well, friend, thank you so much for, you know, entertaining.
Speaker A:Don't talk to me unless it's about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I love it.
Speaker A:And, you know, I know we're not gonna do it often, but when I.
Speaker A:When I'm in control, we're gonna do it.
Speaker B:We're always in control.
Speaker A:I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Ken lessons.
Speaker A:It's time for our Ken lessons.
Speaker A:What are you leaving with?
Speaker A:What thoughts you wanna leave the listeners with as we leave this conversation?
Speaker A:What's still, you know, sitting on your spirit?
Speaker B:All the things that is interesting.
Speaker B:I think what it.
Speaker B:What I'm leaving with.
Speaker B:Why are you laughing?
Speaker A:Yeah, that is interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What I'm leaving with is do not fuck your friends.
Speaker B:Your friends.
Speaker B:Relationships.
Speaker B:Your friends.
Speaker B:Talking stage people.
Speaker B:Your friends.
Speaker B:You know, I met them at the club and we hooked up really quickly.
Speaker B:Your friends, one night stand.
Speaker B:None of those people.
Speaker B:Don't fuck them.
Speaker B:Don't do it.
Speaker B:That's what I'm leaving with.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I. I'm similarly leaving with that of, like, I can translate this over to other spaces, but it's okay to, like, build your own path.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:You don't need to do everything your friend is doing.
Speaker A:You don't need to hunch the same stud that.
Speaker A:That be hunching everybody else that your friend is hunching.
Speaker A:You don't need to.
Speaker A:And it's because I believe everyone has their own path.
Speaker A:And when you try to, like, contrive or be like, oh, maybe this is the person.
Speaker A:No, what's gonna.
Speaker A:What's for you is for you.
Speaker A:And what's gonna come to you will come to you.
Speaker A:And that includes people.
Speaker A:So find someone else to hunch.
Speaker A:I think that's the title of the episode, Find someone else to hunch.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker A:Cause there, I promise you, babes, I was right.
Speaker B:I was about to write don't hunch the stud your friend is hunching.
Speaker B:But, you know, as a title of the episode.
Speaker B:But, yes, find someone else to hunch.
Speaker A:It can be whatever, but make sure hunch is in that title, babes.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I just personally feel like find someone else to hunch.
Speaker A:And our relationship, our friendships should be valued so, so much more than whatever quick moment, rendezvous you have with someone because you possibly think they could be the love of your life.
Speaker A:Let's be realistic, babes.
Speaker A:Like, is Shoddy from Mary's bar gonna be the love of your life?
Speaker A:Maybe not.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker B:Mary's bar is.
Speaker A:Actually kind of gay now, but.
Speaker A:Or even just msr.
Speaker A:If the love of your life, if you meet someone at MSR is 9 times out of 10, that's not the love of your life, is your ruining your friendship with your good, good friend worth that?
Speaker A:We have to actually, like, value our platonic relationships so much more than our romantic ones, because those are what keeps us going.
Speaker A:When I'm sliding down the wall, I'm hitting up my besties, I'm hitting up my people, and those are the people that are gonna still be there.
Speaker A:Not the N that, you know, writes their name on the bathroom wall.
Speaker A:No, it is shade, but it's no shade that nobody.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm firing shots, and they.
Speaker A:I'm just firing shots in the air.
Speaker A:Bow, bow, bow.
Speaker A:That's my lesson, is, like, value all relationships enough to move in your integrity.
Speaker A:It's not that hard.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:It's not that hard.
Speaker A:And whether that's finding someone else to hunch, you know, whatever.
Speaker A:It's not that hard.
Speaker A:That's my lesson of this episode.
Speaker A:It's not that hard.
Speaker A:And find someone else to hunch.
Speaker B:Find someone else to hunch.
Speaker B:I mean, it had to have been that hard for you to hunch them.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:I'm trying to.
Speaker A:It has to be that.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It took me a second.
Speaker A:You're nasty.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It had to be hard for you to hunch them.
Speaker A:It did.
Speaker A:But not that.
Speaker A:It couldn't have been that hard.
Speaker A:Let's be honest.
Speaker B:Is that the episode?
Speaker B:It had to be that hard for you to hunch.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:We got a lot of filler words, but it's just like, child Is that plastic worth it?
Speaker A:Is it worth it?
Speaker A:The plastic worth it?
Speaker A:Is it.
Speaker B:Is the strap on plastic?
Speaker B:I thought it was silicone.
Speaker A:For a lot of people, I'm just saying plastic is shorthand, but, you know, they variations of each other.
Speaker A:Cause it's like, you can put that on any dyke.
Speaker A:Like, is it.
Speaker A:It's not that.
Speaker B:I have a question out of curiosity.
Speaker B:So you have the strap on, right?
Speaker B:It could be plastic, it could be silicone, right?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Do you own.
Speaker B:Does the.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Do y' all use top bottoms?
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:You don't use that lingo, right?
Speaker A:I think we do.
Speaker A:We have accepted it because there's clear division at this point.
Speaker B:You don't have to accept it.
Speaker B:You don't have to accept.
Speaker A:No, no, I'm saying, like, we've accepted it because it has been the best way to talk about it.
Speaker A:There.
Speaker A:I feel like there are tops, there's switches, there are bottoms similarly in like.
Speaker B:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:Gay community.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So the.
Speaker B:The top will wear the strap on, right?
Speaker B:And then sometimes.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So do you.
Speaker B:Do you keep this.
Speaker B:Does the bottom keep the strap on?
Speaker B:Does the top have their strap on?
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker A:Did you just say do you?
Speaker A:And then say, does the bottom.
Speaker A:Babes.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:You tried the.
Speaker A:Out of me.
Speaker B:I said.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I said to you in a.
Speaker B:In a generalized term, not in a ub.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:Do you ask the person.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I think it's personal preference.
Speaker A:Honestly, I can speak for myself.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:Oh, this isn't my business.
Speaker A:I can speak for myself where I like to keep the equipment because, you know, I typically, you know, am receiving, but I like to keep the equipment.
Speaker A:I like to buy my own shit.
Speaker A:And honestly, per situation, because, you know, the energy lingers on items.
Speaker A:I'm very much a believer of, you know, equipment has energy from different situations, all the things.
Speaker A:And, you know, they do you be doing a lot of hunching, and it can.
Speaker A:The silicone can get bent out of shape now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cause I do.
Speaker B:I don't like toys as well, but I'm like, usually, you know, a top in my situations.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker A:Not the promo.
Speaker B:So not the promo, but, like, the folks that I've been with who are into that as well will come with their toys so that I'm using their toys on them as opposed to me having some set of toys that I'm using on design guys.
Speaker B:So it's like.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, you have your.
Speaker B:You have Your toys.
Speaker B:You bring your toys and then we use.
Speaker B:We use that to do our own thing, basically.
Speaker A:Yeah, No, I definitely with that.
Speaker B:Is this going to be safe for YouTube?
Speaker B:I feel like this conversation, you know, if we get blocked on YouTube before we started, I'll be crazy.
Speaker A:But I feel like we're talking in code, you know, we haven't said too too much, but I do.
Speaker A:I resonate with that.
Speaker A:I'm glad you out yourself as a top.
Speaker A:I will out myself as a bottom.
Speaker A:A bratty bottom.
Speaker A:Sometimes verse, you know, sometimes.
Speaker A:Don't be fooled.
Speaker A:Don't be fooled.
Speaker A:Sometimes.
Speaker A:I like to.
Speaker B:Do we, like, dabble?
Speaker A:Yeah, I do like to double on dabble, but it has to be accepted.
Speaker A:And the girls don't like to be bent over these days.
Speaker A:So it's an issue.
Speaker A:It's an issue in our community a little bit.
Speaker A:It's a little controversial, but all that to say, I'm glad we had this little aside.
Speaker A:We should talk about it.
Speaker A:We should talk about, you know, sex a lot more.
Speaker A:We really should.
Speaker A:That was YouTube.
Speaker B:Everybody's having sex.
Speaker B:So, hey, and if.
Speaker A:And as the last episode, we know you should never stop fucking.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker B:The words of the lesbian elders, literally,.
Speaker A:In the words of them, never stop fucking never.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And I agree with them.
Speaker A:As someone who is in my 30s now, that was some great advice.
Speaker A:That was some amazing advice.
Speaker A:And I'm still taking it.
Speaker A:I'm still taking the advice.
Speaker B:Some turn my mind back over.
Speaker B:Like I said, I'm still thinking it.
Speaker B:But, you know, I know, I know.
Speaker A:That's why I said advice.
Speaker B:At this point, you gotta go.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker A:Cause we do.
Speaker A:Because we could riff all day.
Speaker A:So that is our second episode of Chosen Kin.
Speaker A:Thank you so much for listening to us.
Speaker A:You can listen to the podcast wherever you listen to us.
Speaker A:Podcast and on YouTube.
Speaker A:Anything else, Harry?
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Speaker B:And yeah, our personal Instagrams as well will be shared.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Yeah, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe.
Speaker B:Follow us.
Speaker B:Do all the things.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And chat with us about how this episode landed.
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Speaker A:I'm screaming.
Speaker A:Well, we was.
Speaker A:Until next time, y'.
Speaker A:All.
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Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker A:Bye.
